I'm using a poultice to draw out my breast tumor- need advice

by Joan
(San Antonio, Texas)

I'm starting a poultice healing journey tomorrow with Dr. Christopher Schultze's Black Draw Healing Poultice. I have ordered all the ingredients (a good resource for bulk herbs is www.presentmoment.com) and I'm excited and nervous at the same time.

My main concern lies in HOW LONG to leave a poultice mixture on at one time. I consider myself a pretty savvy researcher, but still cannot seem to locate this information online. Anyone that could please provide guidance would be so appreciated.

Once the tumor is out, I will be using the Healing Poultice to rebuild the hole that will be left behind. The team of cancer medical doctors are furious with me for not allowing them to just amputate my breast. I put off my surgery until "after the holidays" and they feel like I'll surely die. But I don't think this is the case at all; it's just an intuitive feeling that I have. I've read several very telling books regarding typical western medicine in reference to cancer, and I can tell you that chopping off my breast and taking out my lymph nodes (the basic seat of the immune system) is not where I want to go with this thing.

Incidentally, they were all completely shocked when tests revealed that the cancer had not spread to anywhere else in my body. But they still wouldn't hear anything I had to say about juicing, drinking ESSIAC tea, taking Dr. Schultze's Detax tincture, urine therapy, reiki, etc.

Oh, well. Anyway- PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE - anyone who can guide me on my poultice journey, please tell me how long I should leave one poultice on at a time. I've read that I can leave the paste on overnight, and also to change the poultice when it dries out- but this is general information. The ingredients in my black draw poultice are as follows:

1) 1 heaping handful of fresh red clover blossoms
2) 1/2 a handful of fresh chaparral leaf
3) 1/4 cup of fresh, grated poke root
4) 2 tablespoons of goldenseal root powder (expensive stuff!)
5) 2 tablespoons of activated willow charcoal
6) 1 teaspoon tea tree oil
7) 1 teaspoon of bloodroot tincture
8) 1 cup Bentonite clay
9) 1 cup slippery elm inner bark
10) 12 large garlic cloves (for surgery, since the tumor has already started to burst through the skin)

Blend the above ingredients in a blender, then add the following to make a paste:

1/2 quart apple cider vinegar
1/2 quart distilled water

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Poultice Advice
by: HFHR

Wow Joan! I'm very impressed with your tenacity and determination to take control of your health! You are one empowered woman and an inspiration to others!

Concerning poultice advice as to how long to leave it on, that's a tough call. Your poultice has many, many, very powerful herbs and everyone can react a little differently. You seem to be in touch with your body and I believe you'll instinctivley know when you should change it. Other than that, definitely change it when it dries out! If you want more detailed instructions I would suggest you contact the Dr. who came up with the recipe for the healing poultice.

I and I'm sure, most HFHR readers, would be interested in how this poultice works for you. Please stay in touch. We wish you the best of luck in your battle!

Thank You!
by: Joan

Oh my goodness, you have NO idea how badly I needed to come home from work and read your response to my blog today (or maybe you intuitively do/did?)! I have researched further and now realize that I definitely need to change the poultice once it dries. Apart from that, I will definitely rely on how I'm "feeling". My mother advised me to document everything I'm doing (with clock time, etc.) since herbs ARE medicine, after all, and I really won't know how I will react to some of these strong herbs.

I contacted the woman at www.presentmoment.com and she suggested that I contact a cleansing specialist who used to work with the author Andreas Moritz. I am going to see about getting in touch with her. But I will definitely post on my progress.

Thank you again. I have felt very alone on this journey. It means so much to me to know that there's someone out there cheering for me and my healing journey! Much love, Joan

More poultice advice
by: HFHR - Jodi

I'm more than happy to cheer you on, Joan! I can't give you any medical advice but I'm sure here to support you!

It sounds like this poultice recipe is going to make quite a bit. Be sure to keep it in the refrigerator and don't be stingy with it. Make sure you cover the whole area BUT it wouldn't hurt to go easy the first time you use it just to make sure you don't have a reaction to it.

As you go to sleep tonight think good thoughts. Maybe make a mental list of all the things you're grateful for. Anything and everything you're grateful for! I find that when I do this or affirmations or even positive visualizations, I wake feeling happier and more rested than if I went to bed brooding about one thing or another. A body that has positive energy has much more powerful healing energy!

Sending you healing energy....

me too
by: Anonymous

Joan,
I too am using a poultice for the very same reason.

While it is unfortunate that the western culture limits its support of the use of alternative methods of treatment I'm glad that the treatments,ingredients and methods are available to those of us who seek them.

Best of luck to you!

I Care
by: celtie

Today is Thursday, April 24, 2013.. and I just read the postings here regarding the ladies using
poultices for their breast cancer. Since the postings aren't dated, I don't know how long ago or recently they were posted. I read them feeling both a heavy heart for what they're going through..but also with admiration by their bravery. I'm wondering as to how they're doing. Oh how I hope they're coming through ok. Sending
much love, light peace and healing.. you can email me celtic_treasure@hotmail.com
thank you

breast cancer tumor , poultice
by: Anonymous

May 2013
wondering how Joan made out with using the poultice to draw out the tumor.
I was diagnosed with breast cancer a year ago and choose to go the holistic route, NO conventional treatment at all and have felt very alone, many days. I believe am being by my Heavenly Father, in Jesus' name that died for my sins & my diseases. He has been teaching me about nutrition and how my body was created to heal itself. I have always been health conscience and thought I was in excellent health, but since last year, have learned so much. I am juicing and cut out all processed foods and added fermented vegetables along with using a rebounder to clean out my lymphatic system, daily.
I also am using an all natural product called Protocel. My husband suggested I look into using a poultice on my breast area to pull the tumor out but I have not heard of anyone doing this until I read this blog.
Please let me know how you are doing, Joan.
Thank you & God bless.
Continued healing & love,
CA

Breast tumor
by: S.A.M.

I have searched for 5 years to find someone else doing ONLY natural treatments for breast cancer. It's nearly impossible to find. I have been trying just about everything out there including the salve. But I have NOT had surgery, etc. I have kept it contained, but it's not gone. If I had had surgery they would have called me a "cancer survivor" or "cancer free". So keep up the good work Joan and let us know how you are progressing. Even though the cancer is not completely gone from my breast, my health is better than it's ever been and I'm almost 54 years old.

bc and poltice
by: braids

wow i'm so glad I found this I've been dealing with stage 4for v20 months now doing all modalities and after 39 rad treatment my gut told me to try a a poltice we are warriors and pioneer's thanks for being there
love

Alkalize your diet
by: Anonymous

I commend you for your tenacity and faith in your body to heal itself. I would like to suggest too, that one of the most important changes you can make is to remove all meat, dairy and fish from your diet, because of GMO's (even if they are only in their feed), toxins, and acidity. Cancer can not live in an alkaline environment. When you alkalize by eating mostly a raw vegetable diet, your body goes into detox mode, which will make you tired and cause headaches at times. Don't get discouraged. This is your bodies way of letting you know it's time to drink more water, do an enema (preferably a low roast coffee enema), have saunas, and get more sleep so it can do it's work. The body knows what to do to heal you, just help it by giving it good pure water and organic vegetable food. Help it to rid itself of all the accumulated toxins like heavy metals, pesticides, drugs, and radiation from electrical devices. Congratulations on your courage. I have a tumor on my breast as well, and will be researching your recipe. Please keep us posted.

God bless
by: Anonymous

Joan,
I am praying for you and I hope you will recover from this diease. Try all natural : cottage cheese and flax seed. U tube has a lot of videos. I a sure u did a lot. Garlic/ginger everyday with cayenne. My mom passed from breast cancer after treatment with medical route. I am living in fear to be the same. but people like you light the way and make me think this does not have to happen again. I pray for your recovery and perfect health and happiness.

read my story of cancer
by: Anonymous

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I wrote a cancer handbook based on my experience and research
by: Angie

Hi, if you like you can download my cancer handbook from www.angienaturalhealth.jimdo.com but please also look at what I've written underneath the DOWNLOAD line. Because I've revised the book in that I've added the new information into the articles on my website. My experience is breast cancer that had spread, and we're talking a big tumor, not just pea-size or similar. See what you think, my research has been very intense over years, and you are welcome to read it for free.
All the best for your healing journey.
Angie

found a relevant website for you
by: Angie

Hi, just found this:

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Maybe this will help you.
Angie

charcoal poultice works
by: Maria

yes charcoal poultice works even without activated charcoal ingestion for cancer. today I just had a text testimony from a client who bought a charcoal breast wrap from me that her breast mass shrank to one fourth size after continuous wear of heated charcoal breast wrap in just a week, thanks be to God!

Self-treatment of breast cancer
by: Sunflower

Hi, I have been dealing with breast cancer for 12 years now on my own with no conventional treatment. My story is too long to post here but I wanted to say i had great results from using Protocel 23 and following the guidelines for that healing modality. However, I had already suffered from too many years with not quite finding just that one right thing for me and the tumor progressed as far as coming through my skin. After the protocel shrank it enough (from the size of a lemon) to being what I thought was gone I stopped taking it. (due to finances) I thought I was healing fine but had a lot of damage done to my skin as a result of the tumor coming through. I started to see what I thought was keloid growth. In the past two years it has grown significantly and is quite hideous. I recently decided to go back on Protocel and have just ordered Paw paw extract which works with Protocel. I do not go to doctors and will not at this point because I believe in the power of the mind and I don't need anyone else's fears to influence my healing. I am committed to seeing this through and though it has been a long, lonely road I know that I have chosen the best path for me. If anyone has any advice for dealing with breast cancer, specifically with serious scar tissue and damage resulting from going it alone I would appreciate hearing from you. I wish you all wellness and strength of love to heal!

For Sunflower
by: S.A.M

Hi Sunflower, my situation is similar to yours. I have seen alternative health practitioners and herbalists, but have not done ANY traditional. Mine also came thru the skin and formed a keloid. An herbalist had me put Body Relief brand of foot detox pads directly on the keloid. It was amazing how it drew off lots of liquid and shrank the keloid! It closed over, but later I had to repeat it. But it sure beats surgery!
I had to replace the pad every few hours at first, then as it healed I could reduce how often I used them.
I hope thus helps. I would be thrilled to know if this works for you too. Feel free to email me if you want. susanzike@yahoo.com

Thanks Susan!
by: Sunflower Umba

Hi Susan,
Thank you so much for your suggestion and I am going to look into it immediately! It is such a relief to have contact with someone else who has experienced what I have.
I have much to share as well if you would like to communicate with me. I am going to email you too, thanks for your kindness!

poultice
by: mariooch

May 2014 So wonderful to find all your entries. I have also been on this lonely road and tried the same poultice drawing as Joan I did it for 3 nites I left it on while I slept. However I started having extreme pain in rt side below lungs diaphagm area and found out from muscle testing that my liver was over taxed so I cut out the poultice to build up liver Then started coffee enema This seemed good but again seemed too fast and the pains in the breast area where tumor is and the whole shoulder area flared up with lots of pain I'm trying to find the right gradient that eliminates the toxicity without overytaxing the rest of the bodys system. Any input or further developments in your alternative healing journeys would be greatly appreciated.

over taxing liver.... suggestion
by: unseenwisdom111

I have a lil exp with herbal remedies.. my suggestion is to research each ingredient in your mix and isolate the one or few that are taxing your system the most and adjust the mix... 20% at a time.. find the right mix for your system.. and supplement your body with a diet of goji berries(wolf berries) seaberries and other items with high lypopene(not spelled right) levels.there are a large number of immune boosting fruit and berries.. additionally toxicity levels can be reduced with food grade activated charcoal from bamboo or coconut but it might reduce effectiveness of things taken orally but it shouldn't effect the compress that your applying.. the charcoal will buffer you liver to ease blow before it gets to put it under stress... You can email me at greenthings111@gmail.com to chat more.. there is too much to just post. I hope my info helps

overtaxing liver
by: mariooch

Thanks so much for your post. Good suggestion on finding out which of the herbs are not right for me. Im a bit laid up right now as the gall bladder and liver again are overtaxed. Handling that for now. No poultice for now but doing coffee enema and nourishing liver and gallbladder. Thanks for the email I will email you when I have a little more energy returned

may 2014 happy to find this forum
by: Anonymous

I can't tell you all how happy I am to have found this forum. Since being diagnosed in 2007, I had used solely holistic means to treat my breast cancer. I have just returned to the western medical world after 7 years due to breast pain and open wounds on my breast. I would love to be in co tact with anyone who has been going through something similar. I would so appreciate the support and would love to offer some as well. maybe we could create a page.

Bilateral breast infection
by: Anonymous

Wow this is absolutely an amazing web site "Healing from home remedies' - well done I am so so impressed to come across this address.
Yes! I have inflammation of both breasts in the ducts causing by inverted nipples which are fully covered with scar tissue; so weird to experience that transformation which has been progressive over ten years. It is only recent have I decided to investigate further into it with the present orthodox medicine and they want to cut and remove the inflammation. I feel in my heart before any such surgical procedures that I need to at least try an alternative approach such as a poultice which my dear mum utilized in her medical home tool kit for chest infections, open wounds, drawing out poisons from wounds and skin infections; just amazing and so effective and reliable plus natural instead of drugs - only way to go. Anyway - if anyone can assist me or advise on a good poultice for drawing infection from the breast/s please leave a message on this site. I thought the coriander and water paste or perhaps the bread poultice may be suitable - what are you views and thank you female fraternity. Kind regards Maureen from NZ

charcoal poultice
by: Anonymous

You can put your poultice on overnight and then change 2 to 3x during the day. I have experience only with charcoal poultice (charcoal powder with water to form a paste wrapped with cloth). The thickness should be about half an inch and size about an inch wider around your breast wound.

Open wound
by: S. A. M.

I have done only alternative treatments for 6-1/2 years. The cancer never spread. It seemed totally gone at 1 point and the sore healed closed. Then it opened again. My herbalist said it was time to see a plastic surgeon. I found a holistic plastic surgeon in Atlanta ,GA. She said that she wanted me to try some things first and see if it will heal. I was shocked since surgeons usually recommend surgery right away. I have used numerous topical applications that all seemed to do something but it's still not healed. I'm still trying. I think your internal terrain might be more important than the topical. Dr. Christopher Herbals has a drawing ointment ( not the black salve, no bloodroot). It has done a lot but then I had to stop it to see if it will close. It kept drawing though. I'm trying enzyme therapy now along with diet. Increasing my veggie and fruit intake. And on supplements recommended by the surgeon. Don't know if this helps but you know that you are not alone.

How long does it take to break away?
by: Need answers in FL

June 2014: I have started using the poultice, but I am wondering how long does it take to come out? From prior experience, can anyone share how long you had to apply the poultice to get the results. My herbalist keeps insisting that it wont burst through my skin, but from all that I've read here, apparently it does. Additionally, after it comes out, what have you applied to the wound?

Response (part 1)
by: Joan

Site reporting interface problems (thanks, Mercury in Retrograde)... Let's try this again. Here's part 1:

I haven't had a chance to read all the comments, here, but I am very overwhelmed to see how many people have been going through this!

I did the poultice for three days, and the tumor shrunk considerably. I was not without odd side effects like a bit of dizziness and disorientation (some vomiting), but then again, herbs ARE drugs. What finally ended up happening is something that I hope does not happen to ANYONE on his thread: I gave into fear and pressure from friends and family and went under the knife (on 1/23/13). It's the biggest mistake of my life, and I struggle with feelings of regret almost every day (regret being a useless emotion- I know, I know...). One of the main reasons that I gave in was that the tumor had burst through the skin and was almost completely on the outside of my body, but then it was still clamped down in my chest. It was really horrible, smelt awful (I mean AWFUL), was bleeding and oozing necrotic stuff, and I was running through about $20 in bandages per day trying to hide it under my clothes. I continued to work fulltime through all of this, by the way - another huge mistake. At the time, I didn't think I had any other option, though, since I live alone, etc.

They took my breast and told me that they were planning to take "a portion" of my lymph nodes under my arm. I insisted that there is no cancer under my arm, but they said that they would only take a few. (What I didn't know at the time is that they could have tested for cancer in the lymph nodes, but they didn't.) Anyway, they took ALL the lymph nodes, which turned out NOT to have any signs of cancer in them. They took a skin graft from my back and used that skin to patch up my chest where the breast was - that's how big the area was- about the size of a small woman's fist.

When they were removing the stitches about 7 weeks later, I asked when I could start looking at reconstructive surgery options. The plastic surgeon's assistant looked at me with horror and said, "well, we won't even consider that until you follow your doctor's recommendations for chemo."

I left and never went back.

The reason that it's taken me so long to come back to this blog is that I've felt extremely traumatized for a very long time. Every time an email lands in my inbox from this site, I wince, close my eyes super tight and delete it because it's something that brings up so much pain for me. Little did I know that others were going through this! Oh my goodness, I am so sorry to have been so short-sighted.

Response (part 2 of 3)
by: Joan

I had intense PTSD for many months after I tapered myself off all the narcotics and could once again think clearly. I moved in with a trusted friend and started temping about 10 months after the surgery. I'm only working part-time right now.

I talk to my mom a lot about all the regrets I have, and she keeps telling me, "Joan, you were SO CLOSE to getting this thing nailed. If you just would have had the proper support... maybe a certified herbalist or something. If you just would have had the money to actually take time off from work and heal yourself, I know you could've beat this thing without succumbing to those tactics." She's right: I felt like I was on an island. It's scary to be by yourself dealing with this, sifting through thousands of web pages, wondering who REALLY has the right answers, etc.

So here I am. It's June 11, 2014 and I'm at a part-time temp job typing this blog. I'm pouring my heart out here and making myself very vulnerable, so if you respond to this thread, please know that I may not read anything that seems judgmental or hurtful. I did the best I could.

I'm renewing my teaching certification online right now. I will substitute teach this coming school year while I find a school I like (and that likes me, lol) and then start teaching fulltime 2015-2016 school year. I found a wonderful clinic called PRMA that does DIEP Flap reconstruction and ALSO does lymph node transplants!! Right here in San Antonio- people come from all over to get this procedure done and it's right in my backyard. I wanted to cry when I read about it. In fact, I did, and I am weeping a little bit right now. This procedure uses your OWN tissue (read: bonus tummy tuck, lol) to rebuilt a natural breast. And they take insurance. I've been sifting through insurance plans trying to figure out who will pay for reconstructive surgery as a result of cancer/mastectomy, but it's kind of hit and miss. One day at a time. My plan is to start the process while I'm teaching in 2015 and have the surgery the summer of 2016 while I'm on summer break.


Response (part 3)
by: Joan

Finally, here's the rest of what I went through and what I can tell you I know...

I wear a prosthetic insert in my bra everyday and I hate it. I am a very small woman- about a size 2- and I always loved just throwing on a tank top without a bra, or just a summer dress in this oppressive Texas heat. But I can't do that anymore. I will continue to wait and to be patient. The Universe knows all, and I suppose everything does happen for a reason.

Here are some excellent resources for anyone going through this (I employed some of them when I had the tumor, and others I wish I had known about):

1) Learn EFT now. (Emotional Freedom Technique) tapping- it's super easy- find Gary Williams on facebook or google "Gary Williams EFT" he's the greatest.

2) Download, buy hard copy, or try to see if the library has the following books by Andreas Moritz: "Cancer is Not a Disease" and "The Amazing Liver Flush"

3) Juice like a maniac. Add some of your morning urine into the juice (just enough so that the urine becomes tasteless). The urine has the cancer in it, and will work kind of like antibiotics to attach the tumor. I know it sounds like the grossest thing in the world, so go and google it. You'll see.

Much love,
Joan

sharing my story/heart
by: Sunflower Umba

Hi Joan, everyone,
Wow these stories are amazing and commend you all for doing your best to heal naturally and however way you feel drawn to. Joan, I just wanted to say I totally understand your choices and your regrets. It is difficult to make any decision and know it is the right one for you all the time. Doubts creep in. Some days are great some are horrible. I have been dealing with a breast tumor for 14 years now. It has opened up to the outside for the past ten years. I did do Protocel for two years and it helped immediately but due to the doubling of the cost I stopped and just hoped it was all gone as the tumor had shrunk to nearly nothing if not all gone. However I had scar tissue so it was hard to tell what was what and much of this is guesswork if you don't go to doctors. Since I quit the Protocel I have had what I thought was a huge growth of keloid scarring around the opening that could never heal normally as it was not a surgical cut. Much of my breast and nipple are destroyed and I am presently dealing with what I think is still a tumor. It has an opening to drain and cleanse and I believe it is doing so. I was using poultices but now I am just focused on my diet, heavy juicing, no meat or dairy, quit coffee and no sugar. I do see and feel improvements though I have extensive nerve damage so I live with pain now and then coming at random times out of the blue. I have heard a lot lately about cannabis oil and I am going to try it as soon as I can afford it. I know that many people have been cured by different methods and everyone has a different system and nutritional needs. Gerson works, Ludwigs works, Protocel works, cannabis oil works etc. Andreas Moritz's book is great as well as "Outsmart your cancer". I wish that I had had more support early on to shrink the tumor before it opened up in my breast and caused so much damage. I still hope to resolve it so that I can stop using a bandage and it can heal over completely. I feel that my commitment to my cleansing diet is going to help me. It will never look normal again but I am 53 years old and no one will ever see it but my husband and he has been by my side the whole time and loves me for me, thankfully. I mostly want to say that I am alive 14 years later. I am learning my lessons in life and I know to appreciate life for every precious moment. I speak my truth, I share my love and I don't take one moment for granted. I don't regret not being irradiated, cut or poisoned but if someone gets pulled in that direction there is no judgement. The collective consciousness does not support our choices and it is a travesty. We need to support one another because we are sisters in this struggle and it is absolutely important to have love and to alleviate fear and stress from our lives. We deserve life without fear, we deserve healing and we can have it.It is about the journey to healing, the life lived in these moments where we have to call upon whatever source of strength we find to move us forward. It is not even about how long one lives but about truly being alive and in my opinion even death is not a failure, we are here for a purpose and when it is time to move on we will. For now, for me, I love life and I love this planet and I will do whatever I can to find the balance in my own body and spirit to heal. I wish the same for all of you, no matter what you choose. Best wishes, many strengths!

for Sunflower
by: Joan

Im typing this from my phone, so pls excuse typos, etc. Thank you for the supportve words. Im running out the door to meet a deadline but i have read that garlic will go in and eat away the cancer. One can pack herbs such as comfrey and others (check Dr Schultze website, i dont know if i still have the recipe) to promote healing. Ill write more later, thanks again, lots kf love and good energy xo -joan

interested in suggestions
by: Anonymous

Thanks to everyone for sharing. I read Joan's postings and noticed the date was only yeaterday so i HAD to post. I too have been dealing with breast cancer toatlly alone - for almost four years now. It's unnerving to say the least but, really, what's the alternative? My husband is my support or I might well have caved in to the pressures to go the slash, poison, burn route. Still, I'm sort of stuck right now. It's contained but not gone, oozing too.

more on healing etc.
by: Sunflower Umba

Thank you Joan! For "anonymous" who just posted. There are so many suggestions that can be offered and I have found that many different methods work for different people. I hear success stories and I believe them, however what works for one doesn't always work for another. I do believe the body tries it's best to heal and has an amazing ability to do so. Most importantly what needs to happen is whatever caused the cancer in the first place needs to be remedied if it is due to poor diet, stress or exposure to a toxic environment. I know that in todays world that can feel impossible because there are many circumstances environmentally beyond our control. We just have to do the best we can and try to be positive about our chosen methods, change them as our intuition tells us. I have been seriously trying to alkalinize my body and I keep testing that I am acidic. I read that when you are detoxing or dieting you can test acidic so I assume this is what is happening but I also read that cancer can't live in an alkaline environment! So what now? I have looked into the baking soda and molasses protocol but heard that it can be hard on the kidneys. Other's say it is a miracle cure. For everything you find someone will say it is a miracle and someone will say it causes problems. Who is being honest? I believe in the individuals stories and sometimes it's the people selling the "other" alternative that tries to discredit another. Who and what to believe? That is my biggest challenge in this age of information. It can be so contradictory! I do believe in healing and I do believe that many things work. I am doing a modified version of the Gerson therapy but I cannot afford to buy and keep 15 pounds of fresh veggies a day to juice! I do about 5 pounds. I also don't have money for supplements and don't trust supplements with fillers which are the least expensive. At first I wanted it out and gone so badly all I could do was visualize it coming out so what I got was my breast opening and logically I believe it was trying to kick the thing out. I tried various poultices but none of the caustic kind because the pain would be too great and I do not want to take toxic pain meds to add to my already struggling body. The pain when it comes sets me back to zero and my hope and positivity collapses. Then it goes away again for weeks and I go about my life and I am pretty happy. I feel it is cleansing and knowing I am putting good food into my body helps immensely. I feel life force energy and I feel I have a choice to live or die. Every day I do my best to be conscious of my thinking and to steer myself away from the negative thoughts that are very persistent! The poultices do draw out toxins and I may go back to it but for now I wanted to see how my diet change affects it. When I try too many things at once I can't tell what is doing what. I would suggest first listening to your own intuition. Read about alternative methods and see which one resonates with you and stick to it for a while. Sometimes it's about finances and the one that resonates is not affordable. Dr.Richard Shulzes incurable program sounds good, it is strict and yet too expensive for me. I would probably have been healed by now if I could have afforded one good program and stuck with it for three years. I can always only afford one or two bottles of this or that and then they are gone and I can't buy any more. It is very sad and wrong but it is the way it is. I just put one foot in front of the other and make the best of what I am given.This post is long I will stop now, but I am happy to discuss this with anyone. Much love and healing to you all and have a wonderful day!

Natural treatment for cancer
by: Henri

I know a Lifestyle Center here in Georgia just outside of Chattanooga in Tennessee.. Their medical doctors believe in treating people with natural medicines like herbs, supplements, hydrotherapy (water therapy that helps you detox, improve circulation and mobilize your immune system)and a strict low sodium and oil vegan diet. For cancer they also use hyperthermia treatment. It is a treatment where they raise your body temperature and artificially induce a high but controlled fever. Viruses and bacteria cannot survive well at elevated temperatures. They apparently keep a person within a safe elevated temperature zone for about half an hour or so at a time. I have personally seen how scores of cancer patients, people with high blood pressure, diabetes, obesity and a host of other diseases have been helped at this place. They are a non-profit organization and even the doctors are volunteers. They are highly professional and do it for the love of the cause. A truly loving and caring environment. I believe they have been around for over 70 years. Here is a link to their website. It may be well worth your time to investigate this place. Wildwood Health

Dr. Schultze
by: Joan

Yes, I totally agree with you Sunflower re: Dr, Schultze's incurable program being expensive. Ridiculously expensive IMO. But if one could locate the exact recipe for the healing of the "hole" that is left behind once the garlic and other ingredients devour said tumor, i believe this would be the ticket. I purged much of my paperwork related to my tumor after the surgery as a sort if energy cleanse; now i so wish i had that 2nd recipe for the ladies on this thread. I WANT to say that i found a little booklet on his website that detailed it.

tissue rebuilding poultice
by: Joan

Anonymous, i found the Dr. Schulze book - it was only $12 - small paperback book titled "There Are No Incurable Diseases". I can type out the recipe and accompanying advice when i get to work on Tuesday, if you want to email me at jdurbin_2222@yahoo.com i'll shoot it over to ya. I remember the herbs i purchased for the both poultices adding up to about $75, but i ordered too much of most of it since i was so freaked out about not having enough. So just let me know, anyone, and i am happy to help. Much love, joan

for joan and everyone
by: Anonymous

Gosh.....I like you all am so happy to find this very honest site - thanks Joan for bearing your soul. Do not regret anything and how fab you can get lymph transplant. I was diagnosed 2001 but went holistic no surgery chemo or surgery. felt great for a few yrs but knew emotionally still had a long journey. Did the black compound x in 2005 but aborted the attempt thru not managing the pain aspect. tumour began growing so went to Malaga and did ect. most of tumour came thru the breast and I was fine for a few yrs but always with an ugly site and up and down depending n diet etc. I began RSO cannabis oil 2 months ago but slow with getting the recommended dose in and it is expensive...but I like the way I feel on it for the most part. it helps if one has had experience of smoking or vaping. The research on cannabis is amazing - this is my chosen medicine from now on.....
When I wrote my book And So We heal,www.paulinelomas.com I decided not to include the fact that I found a much needed comfort from the occasional puff on marijuana. I feared I may be judged but I no longer fear that.....I have a blog and would love to hear more....xtpp://andsoweheal.wordpress.com
Keep positive and keep documenting...Together we are helping the cause....I love all the recipe for the poultices.....

Whatever works is good!
by: Sunflower Umba

Anonymous~ Thank you for your comment and the encouragement on the oil. I am going to make some here pretty soon. I have researched it and I believe it is highly medicinal and beneficial. (which is why it has been suppressed and made illegal) It is a plant from nature, we are natural beings and we should be able to heal from something natural. I did make a salve with the herb and coconut oil and since I have been using it I have only had one evening of nerve pain and I believe it was due to circumstances of that day that caused it. I am noticing subtle changes in my condition since I have been juicing as well and changed my diet to basically no meat (I have had chicken about once a month)no dairy, no coffee and no sugar. I drink about a quart of fresh carrot, beet,cabbage, apple and celery juice a day, eat a big salad with flax oil and try to get lots of potassium into my system through food and some supplementation. I am modifying the Gerson diet and following my intuition to add foods I feel are beneficial even if Gerson does not recommend them. I don't think one diet fits all people and you really have to use logic, be your own scientist and cross-reference and above all use your intuition. I am looking forward to trying the oil. It will be interesting because I am very sensitive and have never been able to eat cannabis products without getting "too" high. However, if I am using it as a medicine specifically I can take the time to relax and allow it to do it's work. I work out of my home as a crafter and sell online so I have the luxury of being able to stay home and take care of myself. I have a garden as well to grow much of my own food. I live in an area where people are very tolerant of medicinal marijuana and know first-hand that it is a plant, a beautiful plant, it does not lead to "Hard Drugs", it has been made illegal only because it actually works as a medicine and it cannot be synthesized and be as effective as home grown, home made medicine. It is legal in our state with certification so many people benefit from it. It also can help one's mental attitude, to stay in the moment, to enjoy the gifts in your immediate reality, to laugh and to feel less pain. It doesn't work the same for everyone either and you have to experiment with dosage. Your body does get used to it over time . I believe the best benefits come from ingesting it rather than smoking. I know that some people might be offended or have opinions about it based on the propaganda but I know the truth and I stand by it. When I am able to start using the oil I will post my progress to share with who ever is interested. I wish you all well in healing whatever your chosen methods!

I am about to use Dr Schulze remedies and poultice
by: Anonymous

Hello-

I don't know how long ago you wrote this web site / blog about using a poultice, but I am very curious to know how you fared. Do let me know!

I almost certainly have breast cancer. I'm a health practitioner myself and know the signs.

I'm mostly scared about the so-called 'hole' that will be left behind after the tumor comes out (if indeed it ever does come out!).

Any comments, advise?

my email is hvplanet@gmail.com

Sincerely,
Morita


Second lump after poultice...any input?
by: Need answers in FL

7/8/14
I started using a poultice & the tumor got bigger just as the herbalist said, however, now a second lump has appeared. Has this happened to anyone else? I've now become scared & stopped using the poultice. Not sure if it means the cancer has spread even more into my breast tissues, hence the second lump. Any input would help.

I am so happy to read stories about all these other women facing this, however, I don't have breast cancer, my primary site is the pancreas & it spread all the way to the breast. Drs are still amazed that I am still living, especially since I've refused their chemo. But to God be all the glory! Ladies keep fighting!!! Blessings to you all!!

for Need Answers in FL
by: joan

Send me an email and I'll shoot over some info to you.

jdurbin_2222@yahoo.com

For Morita
by: joan

Morita- I sent you some emails- check your spam folder if they didn't land in the inbox.

Much love,
joan

contact info etc.
by: sunflower

Hi to the last two posters! I am going to give you the website and contact for Elonna McGibbon who has extensive first-hand experience with healing and with using Protocel. For the pancreatic/breast cancer you might might it works well. It worked pretty quickly for me. I had circumstances occur which brought it back for me a couple of years later, or more likely I stopped the Protocel when I should have kept going. I really don't know. It is hard to answer anyone's question specifically because we are all so different with special nutritional needs. I am doing my version of the Gerson therapy and just started IP6. I had the worse case scenario happen with the tumor breaking open and causing a very hideous open wound. It turned into keloid scarring that I have been dealing with now for two years. It is improving slowly on my plan and I am very healthy otherwise, very much alive and go about my daily life in spite of the problem. (It's been 14 years since I found a lump and I have had no conventional "treatment") We all can adapt and we all can heal. Sometimes it's just finding the right combination of therapies or supplements for your body. Try not to fear, and try to keep your spirits hopeful and positive.
I urge you to call Elonna though and speak with her, perhaps join the forum. Here is the URL; http://www.elonnamckibben.com/contact-elonna-mckibben.html

get your hemp oil from
by: Anonymous

My wife has been suffering from thyroid cancer which was confirmed to be stage four, the doctor told me there was little she could do since she wasn’t responding to treatment but my brother in law came to our rescue by ordering this hemp oil from rick Simpson medicals which he said has been helping some patient fight against cancer of various types so we decided to give it a chance, So far my wife is improving perfectly very well and presently she can walk around the house all by herself. I felt its necessary i let others who are suffering from this acute disease that once you have a good hemp oil it can really give one a sound second chance of living. if you happen to be in need of this hemp oil you can contact the foundation who supplied my brother in law with this email: ricksimpsonmedicals@gmail.com

Wounds that won't heal.
by: Anonymous

Wow, so inspired reading all these wonderful posts by you awesome brave women. Thanks so much for sharing. I have bookmarked this page. One issue came up regarding wounds that don't want to heal. I have just been listening to a talk by Julia Schopick in which she tells the story of her husband who's wound would not heal for 8 months after surgery. Then she discovered silverlon which is a wound dressing impregnated with silver. As soon as they started applying the dressings the wound started healing and he went home after a week. You can read about her experience here:
http://www.honestmedicine.com/2008/05/four-lifesaving.html
Just thought I'd share in case it helps someone.

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